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Eklund
Commissioner
Joined: 09.15.2005

Jul 10 @ 1:06 PM ET
Eklund: Justin Schultz>NYR/Tampa/Detroit? Cullen>St Louis? Schenn for Shattenkirk?
Bruiniak
Boston Bruins
Location: MA
Joined: 07.01.2016

Jul 10 @ 1:11 PM ET
Yes
todd1a
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Valrico, FL
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jul 10 @ 1:11 PM ET
tampa has no cap space when we sign our rfa's we will be capped out
maxbart5
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Summerside, PEI
Joined: 07.23.2013

Jul 10 @ 1:13 PM ET
This is very exciting.
thejonathans
New York Rangers
Location: Hello!!!!
Joined: 05.22.2016

Jul 10 @ 1:19 PM ET
when's the next rumour chart update? last player i see is fowler. are you updating it?
thejonathans
New York Rangers
Location: Hello!!!!
Joined: 05.22.2016

Jul 10 @ 1:20 PM ET
Brayden Schenn for Kevin Shattenkirk ... I guess a no from STL, even though Shattenkirk only has a year left ...
Steiney
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 03.01.2006

Jul 10 @ 1:30 PM ET
Eklund has been right like once ever when it comes to the Blues (Andy McDonald trade from Anaheim) so take it with a pound of salt as opposed to a grain.
Zogg
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jul 10 @ 1:31 PM ET


Are you kidding? If the Flyers are offering Schenn for Shattenkirk, if I was St. Louis I would take that deal in a second.
thejonathans
New York Rangers
Location: Hello!!!!
Joined: 05.22.2016

Jul 10 @ 1:35 PM ET
... i guess not ...
junior1
St Louis Blues
Location: United States, LS
Joined: 02.05.2007

Jul 10 @ 1:38 PM ET
Are you kidding? If the Flyers are offering Schenn for Shattenkirk, if I was St. Louis I would take that deal in a second.
- Zogg


If he is truly being offered, he can't be traded until a contract is signed or arbitration is complete. Which ever comes first.
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: Sayulita
Joined: 09.02.2014

Jul 10 @ 1:39 PM ET
Schultz signs in Edmonton! Mac T big in the negoitiations
Steven_Dean
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: KL
Joined: 07.10.2012

Jul 10 @ 2:02 PM ET
If he is truly being offered, he can't be traded until a contract is signed or arbitration is complete. Which ever comes first.
- junior1



This is incorrect. Players have been traded while waiting for arbitration it just doesn't usually happen. Unless this rule has changed there is no blocking a trade.

Schenn for Shattenkirk is an interesting idea but with the pending UFA versus RFA thing I would imagine Philadelphia would want to gain elsewhere (like a lesser D for F swap) or get back a conditional 2018 pick for not extending Shattenkirk.
i'mjustafan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 05.15.2007

Jul 10 @ 2:04 PM ET
while i would like both back, i think it is more likely for cullen. but for cullen, i think its down to MN and Pit. Schultz can make more elsewhere.
Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.20.2011

Jul 10 @ 2:10 PM ET
Shattenkirk to philly seems about right
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Jul 10 @ 2:18 PM ET
This is incorrect. Players have been traded while waiting for arbitration it just doesn't usually happen. Unless this rule has changed there is no blocking a trade.

Schenn for Shattenkirk is an interesting idea but with the pending UFA versus RFA thing I would imagine Philadelphia would want to gain elsewhere (like a lesser D for F swap) or get back a conditional 2018 pick for not extending Shattenkirk.


Could be like the Andersen deal where the extension was negotiated with Toronto before the trade. I just dont see the need for Shattenkirk. If you look at the Flyers D, Shattenkirk doesnt upgrade the D enough to warrant the loss of a 60 point young forward.

The deal IMO would need to be bigger. Would need to be Streit, Schenn + another D for Shattenkirk + 2 forwards.
maxbart5
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Summerside, PEI
Joined: 07.23.2013

Jul 10 @ 2:35 PM ET
Shattenkirk to philly seems about right
- Flyfreaky

For Amac?
warrior67
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 07.02.2016

Jul 10 @ 2:47 PM ET
So B Schenn and Streit for shattenkirk and Paajarvi.
The blues, with essentially zero cap space with Sobotka(2.7 mil) back and Schwartz(5.5-6 mil) contract yet to come, will make a trade that gives 4.95 million in salary and gets 5.25 million PLUS whatever Schenn is demanding after a great season......

How about
To Flyers - Shattenkirk, Lehtera (8.95 million)
To Blues - B Schenn, Streit (with whatever amount of salary retained from Streit's last year to resign Schenn and still be under the cap) + prospect Travis Konecny.

Really, I don't want Schenn and his one great year (production wise, his possession and shot suppression numbers aren't great) which happened to also be his contract year. I think he will likely dip back into the high 40's in points next year. Which isn't bad, but that isn't worth Shattenkirk AND taking Streit in my mind.
junior1
St Louis Blues
Location: United States, LS
Joined: 02.05.2007

Jul 10 @ 2:53 PM ET
This is incorrect. Players have been traded while waiting for arbitration it just doesn't usually happen. Unless this rule has changed there is no blocking a trade.

Schenn for Shattenkirk is an interesting idea but with the pending UFA versus RFA thing I would imagine Philadelphia would want to gain elsewhere (like a lesser D for F swap) or get back a conditional 2018 pick for not extending Shattenkirk.

- Steven_Dean


The rule must have changed, because players are not to be traded, once they or the team, apply for arbitration, unless an extension is signed or arbitration ruling is completed.
Hokeeguy9
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bethlehem, PA
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jul 10 @ 3:07 PM ET
Someone's been hitting the crack pipe! No way are they giving up on mine my uncle there is a bonafide top 6 forward in the mix!!
jmdodgeser4
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.26.2009

Jul 10 @ 3:09 PM ET
The flyers will not trade for him. The annual salary demand is insane and the flyers are building through youth and the elc on d. Give it up.
Steven_Dean
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: KL
Joined: 07.10.2012

Jul 10 @ 3:11 PM ET
The rule must have changed, because players are not to be traded, once they or the team, apply for arbitration, unless an extension is signed or arbitration ruling is completed.
- junior1


Yeah it sounds right though I could not find that rule anywhere. It may be once the arbitration is awarded it is too late to trade the player until to match?
Hokeeguy9
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bethlehem, PA
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jul 10 @ 3:16 PM ET
The spell check on this thing stinks!!

No way are they giving up on Konecny unless there is a bonafide top 6 forward in the mix!!
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jul 10 @ 3:17 PM ET
No random Malkin rumors today?
Steven_Dean
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: KL
Joined: 07.10.2012

Jul 10 @ 3:24 PM ET
So B Schenn and Streit for shattenkirk and Paajarvi.
The blues, with essentially zero cap space with Sobotka(2.7 mil) back and Schwartz(5.5-6 mil) contract yet to come, will make a trade that gives 4.95 million in salary and gets 5.25 million PLUS whatever Schenn is demanding after a great season......

How about
To Flyers - Shattenkirk, Lehtera (8.95 million)
To Blues - B Schenn, Streit (with whatever amount of salary retained from Streit's last year to resign Schenn and still be under the cap) + prospect Travis Konecny.

Really, I don't want Schenn and his one great year (production wise, his possession and shot suppression numbers aren't great) which happened to also be his contract year. I think he will likely dip back into the high 40's in points next year. Which isn't bad, but that isn't worth Shattenkirk AND taking Streit in my mind.

- warrior67


The St. Louis cap situation isn't that bad with 8.7M open and only Schwartz to re-sign but you are right, the proposed offer was definitely an issue.

If Philadelphia needs a forward or two back I can see your deal happening but I doubt they take on Lehtera AND retain Streit WHILE giving up Konecny.

Maybe:

Shattenkirk, Lehtera, Conditional 2018 2nd
For
Schenn, Streit (50% retained), Hagg

St. Louis frees up cap while getting a young top 6 center for Shattenkirk, dumping Lehtera and getting a decent defensive prospect while Philadelphia gets a top line defender with some insurance should they lose him at FA.




Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.20.2011

Jul 10 @ 3:32 PM ET
For Amac?
- maxbart5

Amac, streit and read
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